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Y&R-Song played-PLEASE HELP
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Java
2008-05-14 18:10:34 UTC
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OK my husband is a BIG music fan and the song played at Nicki and dog
Chows wedding did not ring a bell. Does anyone know the title in
either English or Spanish. Also is that not the same song played at
Nicki and Vics wedding (well one of them).

Thanks a lot

Java
BQ
2008-05-14 18:47:46 UTC
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Post by Java
OK my husband is a BIG music fan and the song played at Nicki and dog
Chows wedding did not ring a bell. Does anyone know the title in
either English or Spanish. Also is that not the same song played at
Nicki and Vics wedding (well one of them).
Thanks a lot
Was it not "The Rose" but not the version made hugely popular by Bette
Midler?

bq
Lindy
2008-05-14 19:09:29 UTC
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Post by BQ
Was it not "The Rose" but not the version made hugely popular by Bette
Midler?
I'm too lazy to go back and watch the tape but I think the song was "Through
the Eyes of Love". As I was listening, I was trying to remember who
originally sang it.

~Lindy~
Fred/Libby Barclay
2008-05-14 19:12:40 UTC
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Yes, that song has always been Victor and Nikki's song. I've always
called it "Through The Eyes of Love", but that's probably not the title.

Libby
Grace Noble
2008-05-14 19:36:36 UTC
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LOOKING THROUGH THE EYES OF LOVE (Melissa Manchester)

Please, don't let this feeling end,
It's ev'rything I am,
Ev'rything I wanna be;
I can see what's mine now,
Finding out what's true,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love

Now I can take the time,
I can see my life
As it comes on shining now;
Reachin' out to touch you,
I can feel so much,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love.

And now I do believe,
That even in a storm, we'll find some light;
Knowin' you're beside me,
I'm alright.

Please, don't let this feelin' end,
It might not come again;
And I want to remember
How it feels to touch you;
How I feel so much,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love.
MarkH
2008-05-14 19:53:18 UTC
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WAIT???????????????????

Are you saying that Victor and Nikki's song was played at Nikki and
David's WEDDING???????????????????

The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).

I'm hopeful you're going to tell me Nikki had a wistful flashback
montage to her song with Victor (Through The Eyes of Love)...and NOT
THAT THEY POLLUTED THAT SONG by playing it at her wedding to Chow

Of course, Nikki and Victor got a NEW song at their last wedding. It
played as they looked at their photo album.

From Vangelis "Heaven And Hell"
"So Long Ago, So Clear" vocals by Jon Anderson

Once, we did run
How we chased a million stars
and touched as only one can

Once, we did play
How the past delivered you
Amidst our youth we'd dream away, away

As if I knew the words I'm sure you'll hear
Of how we met as you recall so clear

Once, we did love
Long ago how did I forget
Holding you so closely

Look, how I move
Chance would have me glance at you
To know how you move me, me

Oh barriers fall around us as we hear
Of memories known and met so long ago, so clear

(interlude)

Once, we did run
How we chased a million stars
And touched as only one can
Cheri
2008-05-14 20:02:06 UTC
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MarkH wrote in message ...
Post by MarkH
The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).
I love Robby Benson, and that movie. Since you know all of this stuff
Mark, what was the name of that movie where Robby Benson was dying? I
can't think of it right now.

Cheri
MarkH
2008-05-14 20:20:20 UTC
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Post by Cheri
MarkH wrote in message ...
Post by MarkH
The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).
I love Robby Benson, and that movie. Since you know all of this stuff
Mark, what was the name of that movie where Robby Benson was dying? I
can't think of it right now.
Cheri
I just searched Neflix...no clue. Anyone? I think he was THE teen
idol of the late 1970s, no?
record hunter
2008-05-14 20:33:18 UTC
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Post by MarkH
Post by Cheri
MarkH wrote in message ...
Post by MarkH
The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).
I love Robby Benson, and that movie. Since you know all of this stuff
Mark, what was the name of that movie where Robby Benson was dying? I
can't think of it right now.
Cheri
I just searched Neflix...no clue. Anyone? I think he was THE teen
idol of the late 1970s, no?
Oh, I loved Robby Benson. I can't recall a movie in which he was
dying, but here's a list of his credits from his website.

http://www.robbybenson.net/careerCredits/index.html
PT
2008-05-14 20:36:48 UTC
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Post by MarkH
Post by Cheri
MarkH wrote in message ...
Post by MarkH
The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).
I love Robby Benson, and that movie. Since you know all of this stuff
Mark, what was the name of that movie where Robby Benson was dying? I
can't think of it right now.
Cheri
I just searched Neflix...no clue. Anyone? I think he was THE teen
idol of the late 1970s, no?
He did a made for tv movie called "Death Be Not Proud" where he played
a teen who died of a brain tumor, which was based on a true story. Is
this what you are thinking of? One of my favorite Robby Benson movies
was "One on One" with Annette O'Toole. I'd like to see that one
again :)

pt
MarkH
2008-05-14 21:08:06 UTC
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Post by PT
He did a made for tv movie called "Death Be Not Proud" where he played
a teen who died of a brain tumor, which was based on a true story.  Is
this what you are thinking of?  One of my favorite Robby Benson movies
was "One on One" with Annette O'Toole.  I'd like to see that one
again :)
pt
I hated that one. He was so rude to his coach at the end. I know he
was badly treated before that.

He looked good...
MarkH
2008-05-14 21:11:32 UTC
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What a funny group this is.

NOW you have me googling to see how Robby looks today.

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Not bad.
Cheri
2008-05-14 21:41:18 UTC
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PT wrote in message
Post by PT
Post by MarkH
Post by Cheri
MarkH wrote in message ...
Post by MarkH
The song is also called "Theme From Ice Castles" (starring the still-
fetching Robby Benson...why do I know this sh*t?).
I love Robby Benson, and that movie. Since you know all of this stuff
Mark, what was the name of that movie where Robby Benson was dying? I
can't think of it right now.
Cheri
I just searched Neflix...no clue. Anyone? I think he was THE teen
idol of the late 1970s, no?
He did a made for tv movie called "Death Be Not Proud" where he
played
Post by PT
a teen who died of a brain tumor, which was based on a true story.
Is
Post by PT
this what you are thinking of? One of my favorite Robby Benson
movies
Post by PT
was "One on One" with Annette O'Toole. I'd like to see that one
again :)
pt
That's it...TY.

Cheri
Willow
2008-05-14 22:04:16 UTC
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The song is "Through the Eyes of Love" by Melissa Manchester. You can
listen to a clip of it on Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Essence-Melissa-Manchester/dp/B000002VT5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1210802614&sr=8-1
Fred/Libby Barclay
2008-05-14 23:58:41 UTC
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Regarding Robby Benson......

He really looks good - I wonder what he's doing now.

He taught drama at the University of South Carolina for a year or two
twenty years or so ago. I always thought he was a real cutie.

Libby
MarkH
2008-05-15 13:54:34 UTC
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Well, I saw the scenes.

I'm less appalled than expected. The juxtaposition of Victor and
Nikki, both making rebound decisions, but both CLEARLY thinking of
each other, was perfect. The song highlighted how wrong this marriage
was, and that was the point. "Same song, but a little off...".
Melody Thomas has been so ardent in the press about how wrong every
piece of this is...and she's having fun playing it. She thinks Nikki
started this (!) by flaunting David in public. [Interesting...she
takes the blame...she doesn't blame Victor for going to Sri Lanka or
whatever].

She then is quick to note this is Nikki's TENTH (!!!) wedding. And
she calls the relationship(s) "rebound". So, I think she has a keen
sense that this is a mistake being made by the characters, but I also
think she realizes it makes for some fun story beats. I think she
thinks Nikki is going to suffer at David's hands, and she believes
Nikki is going to deserve it. Very interesting take...to play someone
you basically don't like or respect.

Still, the musical montage was effective. Thomas Scott's face clearly
registered fake-happiness, a frozen smile. Braeden was LITERALLY
_chewing_ "Sabrina's" mouth ("open-mouthed heterosexual kissing" IN
THE EXTREME...pushing her against the wall). It made even me feel a
bit uncomfortable...but I think that was the point. (I also marvel at
how Sabrina is playing Victor..."I will draw you a bath"...she TOTALLY
gets what makes this man tick...it is servitude and idolatry). I love
Sabrina more everyday. She has picked Victor up for the controlling
narcissist he is, and she is feeding him. It is brilliant. I can't
tell you how happy this story makes me (and yes, I am referencing
Braeden's new current phrase).

I was touched by Nick and Victoria playing paper football. In a quick
glance, it harkened back to their childhood, but showed that THEY were
maintaining the family bonds even if their less mature parents could
not. Shirl has been railing against the immaturity of Victor and
Nikki--their stuckedness in the past--but I think that is what was
being skillfully written here. These are two 50+ year olds who are
stuck in dysfunctional patterns...and the older they get, the more
pathetic they get. That is (to my eyes) compelling.

On another note, these last episodes could not feel more LML-ish...but
in a good way. The musical montage and 24-style split screen at the
end (I'm guessing that is really Josh Griffith), the use of humor
everywhere, the "realistic everyday business" (paper football,
pictionary). These were all the things I sang high hosannas about in
Summer 2005.

At the same time, we know what negative cost came associated with
those improvements...stories that went nowhere, characters that acted
like strangers....for many, Clear Springs was the triumph of style
over substance and plot over character.

It is so clear that the 18 WGA writers now on staff (18!!!!) both
bring genuine writing skills, and muddy the show's momentum to no
end. There is better show-to-show editing going on, but I don't have
faith in the ability to (a) plot out long arcs, or (b) keep energy and
momentum high. I should add, with Jill/Kay/Paul/Neil and others on
the backburner, I'm also still not convinced that this show is any
closer to using its veterans well.
Shirl
2008-05-15 14:33:14 UTC
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Post by MarkH
She then is quick to note this is Nikki's TENTH (!!!) wedding. And
she calls the relationship(s) "rebound". So, I think she has a keen
sense that this is a mistake being made by the characters, but I also
think she realizes it makes for some fun story beats. I think she
thinks Nikki is going to suffer at David's hands, and she believes
Nikki is going to deserve it. Very interesting take...to play someone
you basically don't like or respect.
interesting take? With the exception of EB, I would hope actors playing
people they don't like or respect is very commonplace, especially on a
soap!
Post by MarkH
Still, the musical montage was effective. Thomas Scott's face clearly
registered fake-happiness, a frozen smile. Braeden was LITERALLY
_chewing_ "Sabrina's" mouth ("open-mouthed heterosexual kissing" IN
THE EXTREME...pushing her against the wall). It made even me feel a
bit uncomfortable...but I think that was the point.
Yes, the "ick factor" with regard to the "chewing" was never more
apparent. But the "mistake" being made by both of them would have been
even more compelling, IMO, if Victor's sadness/mopiness and Sabrina's
inability to console him had been the other side of the split screen
instead of the chewing. JMO, though. I'd rather have felt sympathy for
Victor in the knowledge that even the young, beautiful Sabrina couldn't
console his hurt/sadness over losing the love of his life again -- Nikki
-- than feeling the disgust that after all the times he's gone this
route, he STILL thinks another pretty young thing is the answer.
Post by MarkH
(I also marvel at
how Sabrina is playing Victor..."I will draw you a bath"...she TOTALLY
gets what makes this man tick...it is servitude and idolatry).
Is that what she said? "I will draw it"? When he said his back had been
hurting and he was going to take a bath, I thought she said, "I'll DRY
it"! LOL. Maybe they *are* made for each other -- we need closed
captioning for both!
Post by MarkH
I was touched by Nick and Victoria playing paper football. In a quick
glance, it harkened back to their childhood, but showed that THEY were
maintaining the family bonds even if their less mature parents could
not. Shirl has been railing against the immaturity of Victor and
Nikki--their stuckedness in the past--but I think that is what was
being skillfully written here. These are two 50+ year olds who are
stuck in dysfunctional patterns...and the older they get, the more
pathetic they get. That is (to my eyes) compelling.
That's where we, and viewers in general I believe, differ. They have
been stuck in dysfunctional patterns for YEARS. That history is, IMO, a
ready-made foundation/background for new compelling story to evolve --
unlike new characters whose backgrounds and foundations have to be
carefully created and written, characters like Victor and Nikki are
walking springboards for story. I don't find them continuing to be STUCK
in that same old dysfunction and getting even more pathetic compelling
at all; for all the talk about being "stale", how can you not find that
continuous-loop replay stale? In fact, the longer that very "stale"
situation continues, the less compelling it is, IMO.

Shirl
Patricia Wadley
2008-05-15 15:56:41 UTC
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Post by MarkH
Well, I saw the scenes.
I'm less appalled than expected. The juxtaposition of Victor and
Nikki, both making rebound decisions, but both CLEARLY thinking of
each other, was perfect. The song highlighted how wrong this marriage
was, and that was the point. "Same song, but a little off...".
Melody Thomas has been so ardent in the press about how wrong every
piece of this is...and she's having fun playing it. She thinks Nikki
started this (!) by flaunting David in public. [Interesting...she
takes the blame...she doesn't blame Victor for going to Sri Lanka or
whatever].
She then is quick to note this is Nikki's TENTH (!!!) wedding. And
she calls the relationship(s) "rebound". So, I think she has a keen
sense that this is a mistake being made by the characters, but I also
think she realizes it makes for some fun story beats. I think she
thinks Nikki is going to suffer at David's hands, and she believes
Nikki is going to deserve it. Very interesting take...to play someone
you basically don't like or respect.
Still, the musical montage was effective. Thomas Scott's face clearly
registered fake-happiness, a frozen smile. Braeden was LITERALLY
_chewing_ "Sabrina's" mouth ("open-mouthed heterosexual kissing" IN
THE EXTREME...pushing her against the wall). It made even me feel a
bit uncomfortable...but I think that was the point. (I also marvel at
how Sabrina is playing Victor..."I will draw you a bath"...she TOTALLY
gets what makes this man tick...it is servitude and idolatry). I love
Sabrina more everyday. She has picked Victor up for the controlling
narcissist he is, and she is feeding him. It is brilliant. I can't
tell you how happy this story makes me (and yes, I am referencing
Braeden's new current phrase).
I was touched by Nick and Victoria playing paper football. In a quick
glance, it harkened back to their childhood, but showed that THEY were
maintaining the family bonds even if their less mature parents could
not. Shirl has been railing against the immaturity of Victor and
Nikki--their stuckedness in the past--but I think that is what was
being skillfully written here. These are two 50+ year olds who are
stuck in dysfunctional patterns...and the older they get, the more
pathetic they get. That is (to my eyes) compelling.
On another note, these last episodes could not feel more LML-ish...but
in a good way. The musical montage and 24-style split screen at the
end (I'm guessing that is really Josh Griffith), the use of humor
everywhere, the "realistic everyday business" (paper football,
pictionary). These were all the things I sang high hosannas about in
Summer 2005.
At the same time, we know what negative cost came associated with
those improvements...stories that went nowhere, characters that acted
like strangers....for many, Clear Springs was the triumph of style
over substance and plot over character.
It is so clear that the 18 WGA writers now on staff (18!!!!) both
bring genuine writing skills, and muddy the show's momentum to no
end. There is better show-to-show editing going on, but I don't have
faith in the ability to (a) plot out long arcs, or (b) keep energy and
momentum high. I should add, with Jill/Kay/Paul/Neil and others on
the backburner, I'm also still not convinced that this show is any
closer to using its veterans well.
Excellent, everything I was thinking.

1+

my2cents
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BQ
2008-05-14 22:42:49 UTC
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Post by Fred/Libby Barclay
Yes, that song has always been Victor and Nikki's song. I've always
called it "Through The Eyes of Love", but that's probably not the title.
Ah yes, forget what I said, same era but different song! Sorry!
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